Comments on: MailCo Jobs

By: Danny

Danny — Mon, 19 Nov 2007 11:25:25 +0000

Have you thought about working closely with server projects? Have a look at Apache James.

By: Marta

Marta — Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:20:46 +0000

This is so exciting! I was just looking to change email providers but just don’t want any of the three largest for various reasons. So I began idly googling. And thought, “what’s my favorite internet page or vehicle? Who do I trust? Where would I be more than happy to put my money, pageviews, and whatever else..” “Oh, Mozilla!”

So, googling “Mozilla email” returned this post at the bottom of the first page of results. I’m not sure where to watch to find out about beta testing but I’m looking forward to this very much. If you begin hosting an email service I will apply for a position as “evangelist”.

By: Michael Vincent van Rantwijk

Michael Vincent van Rantwijk — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 21:49:01 +0000

First of all; I’m glad, really glad that you finally made this statement because this was something corporate users were waiting for.

Also, nobody seems to know (or care) what the two former Mozilla Corporation employees for Thunderbird are up to; what if they start a MailCo like company for Thunderbird? Won’t that give them a jump start?

Should your “QA Community Lead” be the Asa Dotzler for MailCo?

Have you looked at Flock Inc. and their efforts to setup a community or Flock?

By: Rolf

Rolf — Thu, 08 Nov 2007 18:47:40 +0000

here an End-User perspective:

Despite trying to get away from it, I am still using MS Outlook.
I want a multi-platform solution to have a smooth transition from Windows to Linux.
(For testing, I have installed tb on my machine for quite a while.)

WHY have I (and many other users) not yet switched?

I could live with an external Calendar (some other can’t due to contacts integration needs, which I don’t use for calendar items.)

I am looking for a solid, fast eMail client.

So WHAT does an eMail client need?
eMail addresses.
=> Since I am not prepared to maintain several address DBs, I would need an integrated address book, which covers my needs.
=> And exactly here is MY PROBLEM with tb.
While tb has great eMail capabilities, the address book is just the bare minimum. More fields would be important to cover peoples needs.
But MANDATORY for me are multiple categories or tags. (So one could be in the ‘Friends’ group (tag) and also be in the ‘Education’ and the ‘CarClub’ group(tag).)

Also the synchronisation of contacts (the address book) with PDAs, etc. has to work smooth.

Those are not huge rocks and could eventually be implemented in tb2. That would allow many, many users to convert to tb.

Just consider that.

Best wishes with the further development of tb.

sincere greetings from Switzerland,
Rolf Gloor

By: Jon Pritchard

Jon Pritchard — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 00:40:47 +0000

Regarding – ‘Push sync with PDAs (mails and dates).’ – I think that should include mobile phones which arguably have a larger presence and power these days.

By: Heribert

Heribert — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 17:34:25 +0000

I have tried a lot of email clients – including most of the “big ones” and some specialists. While most of them have their specific advantages, I have not come across a client that was more flexible (from a user’s point of view) than TB.
Of course, the whishlist for daily usage – especially in a business context – may be a long one. But a lot of add-ons already available step in right here.
Lightning (which still is 0.7, remind you) is so much more than just an add-on that it deserves tighter integration for more functionality and usability.
I fully agree with Ivan (comment #4) that a broad user basis is essential. Therefore you should have a look at the needs of those people that now (still) use Outlook and the like. I don’t mean you should copy Outlook (like Evoution tried to do), but find out what people like about it and come up with even better ideas.

David, none of the positions you are looking for sounds like me – what a pity. I’m not a coder, architect, wizard or similar, but I’m a heavy user. Your new efforts are reason enough for me to keep touch with the community. When I find something suitable where I think I can help, I will let you know…

By: VelkyMX

VelkyMX — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:46:44 +0000

How about add delete all spam from the spam folder?

By: gandalf

gandalf — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 17:14:45 +0000

Cheq: you’re very aggressive. Please, calm down. In Mozilla world, we don’t use such language nor such tone.

You seems to have little knowledge about the market (that’s what I see from your accusations and presumtions about Google/IBM etc.), you attack and you present “requiring” position of a person who request and others have to realise your requests. Please, bear in mind that Thunderbird is a collaboration effort, and we need positive energy to produce better results, while what I see in your comments is entirely negative and (as I mentioned before) agressive.

Mozilla is made of huge community and we are open source model. Mozilla’s head is an non-profit foundation with mission statement “Promote choice and innovation in the Internet”. MailCo will be a part of this project and the Foundation will be an exclusive owner of the company, so MailCo team will serve the requirements set up by this non-profit Foundation.

Of course it’s most important for us to serve users and get their opinions, and I’m pretty sure that MailCo will be listening to what users need. Give them a chance, and try to be supportive. That’s way more effective.

Thanks

By: basic

basic — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 14:19:28 +0000

@Cheq:

2. Seconded! Would be good to have GPG/PGP integrated. Though I disagree with removing S/MIME. IMHO both should be available and unified. Would also be good to have official docs on what they are. Few issues:
a) GnuPG is GPL. it comes with its own crypto (even has its own S/MIME implementation http://www.gnupg.org/aegypten/ ).
b) GnuPG is not a library http://www.gnupg.org/(en)/documentation/faqs.html#q4.16

However, since thunderbird already have a crypto lib, it might be possible to implement GPG/PGP on top of it, but will take someone with security background to make it safe. Some might want to have DKIM/SPF (though I hate it ) support as well.

@David:
Looking good. Eventually, you might need a good email/IM/crypto security expert (maybe we have one from moz?).

By the way, how does the penelope/eudora project relates to mailco? Will there be collaboration between QUALCOMM and mailco?

By: UweSch

UweSch — Sat, 03 Nov 2007 08:58:42 +0000

Hi David,

i heared about your difficult job, to build an new Mail-Client and i red your blog and saw that you are looking for the right stuff. Maybe i can help you somehow. I’m not a softwareengeneer but there are so much other doings.

Let me know, if i can helpyou.

Sincerely,
Uwe Schoeler